you do not pay tax. they have to have lawyers now, accountants and -- >> 9600 jurisdictions that they have to keep track of. and each one had that is a different set of rules and regulations. i hear the argument, it's not a big deal that someone will figure it out with software, it's not about the software, it's about compliance and aud auditing and small businesses spending time on paperwork instead of getting back to work. >> i feel it's a tax grab. what bothers me is you may favor that tax grab. that is my concern. can you dissuede me from that concern? >> i do not like this tax grab. states fund themselves with sales tax. it's the primary way that states generate, revenues for themselves. so we cannot take away the only way they generate revenue. >> some states. >> some, right, but maybe a better way to do it is to collect the tax in the state where the psmall business exist. >> how about that? >> that is what exists now, it's across state lines that we are talking about. >> go ahead. go ahead. pleas